They go to the Southlands to find a way to build a refuge in the midst of this very, very oppressive and ruthless culture. Bird and Madrone are two of the main characters of The Fifth Sacred Thing. That gave me the title for the book and a sense of where the story was going to go. So, build a City of Refuge in the heartland of the enemy. I woke up from the dream with this message echoing in my head that said, every city needs three things: a Plaza, a Hearth, and a Sacred Tree. As I was wrestling with that question, I had a dream. Of course, then I had to figure out how they were going to do that. In City of Refuge, the people from the North realize they can’t be liberated completely, they can’t be safe, and they can’t really have security when the Southlands are still in such desperate conditions. It centers around a different question that I have been wrestling with:, how can we build a new world when people are so deeply damaged by the old? The City of Refuge picks up where The Fifth Sacred Thing left off.
So the story centers around what happens when the South-lands invade the North and how the North can resist this violent assault without becoming what they’re fighting against. In Southern California it’s gone the other way, people have become more militaristic, more racist, more ruthless. In The Fifth Sacred Thing the story centers around the kind of ecotopian society that has developed in Northern California after environmental and social collapse had splintered the cCountry and left it devastated. What is it about? What happens in a nutshell that you can reveal? You’re not done with us yet, and we’re not done with you.” So I decided to go ahead and write a sequel. They started kind of banging on the door and saying, “You know, there’s more to our story here. So I started to think about what would happen if the story went on. I kept hearing from people saying how much the book had meant to them and how so many people felt like it was more relevant now than it was when I wrote it. That put me into writing a screenplay and a pilot, immersed me back in the world of the characters.
The last few years we have been working to bring it to the screen. When I wrote The Fifth Sacred Thing it was over twenty years ago. What inspired you to write the sequel and why at this time? Now, twenty years later, her new novel City of Refuge answers the timely question: how do we build a new world when people are broken by the old? When it came out in 1993, it was a best-seller. Starhawk’s The Fifth Sacred Thing is a post-apocalyptic tale about a multicultural community of witches resisting the forces of evil.
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